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THE ROYAL BATTLE OF THE GOD’S
In the oldest writing in Scripture, we learn from the book of Job,
"And the Lord said to Satan, From where do you come? Then Satan
answered the Lord and said, From roaming about on the earth and walking around
on it." (Job 1:7)
Satan was forced out of heaven and henceforth lives on the earth.
Peter confirms this in the New Testament:
"Your adversary, the devil, prowls about like a roaring lion,
seeking someone to devour." (1 Peter 5:8)
"And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from
heaven." (Luke 10:18)
There are some who say the angels nor Satan could procreate. But
where is this stated in the Scripture? The only reference that is made about
those in heaven is where it is related that men and women are not given in
marriage: Matthew 22:29-30:
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the
scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry,
nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." (KJV)
"For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor
are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven." (KJV)
"And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world
marry, and are given in marriage: But they which shall be accounted worthy to
obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are
given in marriage." (KJV) There is not one word in any of these verses
which say that they could not procreate if they wanted to. Only that they are
not given in marriage, nor do they marry. Therefore, it is safe to assume that
they could have children or procreate if they wanted; but apparently the desire
to have sex will have been taken from them. Therefore, those who base their
belief that an angel or a spirit or whatever could not procreate is false; and
not proven in the scriptures.
Other Scriptures in both the Old and the New Testaments tell
further of Satan's activities, his authority and powers, and his final
destruction. For our purpose, the Scriptures used here suffice to establish the
advent of Satan on earth somewhere before Genesis 3:1. Even though it was not
reported here, other scripture references give ample evidence that the event
most assuredly took place.
This is a prime principle which we must acknowledge and accept,
that the whole of Scripture testifies to all parts of Scripture. This principle
is clearly evident in the case of Satan's advent; it is evident and necessary in
other cases which we shall soon see.
There is an all-out war of words being waged in the circles of the
Israel Truth, otherwise known as the Israel Identity. Parties on both sides of
the issue have drawn a line in the sand, and ideological clenched fists are
being shaken from indignant participants.
Each participant, in his own way, is trying his best (or maybe his
worst), in the most brutal manner, to draw ideological blood. They are aiming
their rhetorical cutting words for no less than the proverbial jugular vein of
their opponents in order to kill what they believe are damming heretical
Both sides go to long and contentious lengths in an attempt to
prove their undying convictions on this subject. To these opposing adherents,
there is no common middle ground for compromise, nor can there ever be any. This
is a matter where one is either totally correct or totally wrong; no gray middle
Many simply do not have a complete knowledge of this subject, but
will find themselves eventually, on one side of the fence or the other. If one
tries to straddle the fence on this subject, he will only find himself with his
pants torn, and espoused in the most unseemly Location. Like all
controversies, there is usually a right and a wrong side to consider. And of
course the Jews are throwing in their provocateurs to cause continued friction
between the two sides, to The point that neither side will relent even a little
in their core beliefs. In this study we will be considering who is wrong on this
GREATEST OF ALL ISSUES, at least some believe that it is the greatest of all
The concept of the Two Seedlines is; that Satan once ruled to a
high degree in the dimensions of Yahweh. In ages past, not being satisfied with
his high position, he tried to usurp the position of Yahweh Himself. Satan (the
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of
light." (2 Corinthians 11:14)
convinced 1/3 of Yahweh's angels to join him in his rebellion.
This rebellion is recorded in Revelation 12:7-9:
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought
against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not;
neither was THEIR PLACE found any more in heaven. And THE GREAT DRAGON was cast
out, THAT OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL, AND SATAN, which deceiveth the whole
world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
If you will notice very carefully, if you have a KJV with a good
center reference (cf. Older World, Southwestern or newer Zondervan Classic) this
verse takes you to Genesis 3:1, 4 (2 Corinthians; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6;
Revelation 12:9), so there is no doubt here who the serpent of Genesis is. If
you don't understand this connection with the above quoted passage and the
SERPENT of Genesis 3:1, 4, you will have totally lost sight of the entire story.
Yeashua the Messiah, being Yahweh incarnate, speak is of this, Satan's fall, in
"... I ‘beheld' Satan as lightning fall from heaven."
This is past tense; not something in the future.
Beheld: Strong's Concordance: #2334 theoreo (theh-o-reh'-o); from
a derivative of 2300 (perhaps by add. of 3708); to be a spectator of, i.e.
discern, (literally, figuratively [experience] or intensively [acknowledge]):
KJV-- behold, consider, look on, perceive, see. Compare 3700.
Lightning: Strong's Concordance: #796 astrape (as-trap-ay'); from 797;
lightning; by analogy, glare: KJV– lightning, bright shining.
Fall: Strong's Concordance: #4098 pipto (pip'-to); a reduplicated
and contracted form of peto (pet'-o); (which occurs only as an alternate in
certain tenses); probably akin to 4072 through the idea of alighting; to fall
(literally or figuratively): KJV-- fail, fall (down), light on.
"Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven,
saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. The people
therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An
angel spake to him. Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me,
but for your sakes. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of
this world be cast out." (John 12:28-31; Luke 10:18; John 14:30; 16:11; 2
Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 6:12) (KJV)
The concept of the Two Seedlines further predicates that when
Satan fell, with the rest of his satanic beings, they left the dimension of
spirit and entered the dimension of the physical, as men:
"And THE ANGELS WHICH KEPT NOT THEIR FIRST ESTATE, but left their
own habitation (or principal it, KJV center reference), he hath reserved in
everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day (no longer
having access to Yahweh's dimension)." (Jude 1:6) We know these fallen angels
were living at the time of Yeashua as men, as the center reference of the KJV
takes us to John 8:44 where Yeashua said to the "Jews":
"YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his
own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44; see also, Matthew 3:7;
11:12; 12:39; 12:45; 23:15; Luke 9:41; 10:25; Acts 1:6; 2:40; 13:6-10; Romans
2:14; 4:15; 7:7; 1 John 3:4; 3:10)
Another cross reference on Jude 6 is 2 Peter 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down
to hell, and delivered them into chains (earth bound) of darkness, to be
reserved unto judgment."
The fallen angels had the power to change themselves into the form
of men is recorded in "The Lost Books of The Bible and The Forgotten Books of
In "Testament of Reuben," 2:18-19, page 223:
"For this they (the women) allured the Watchers (fallen angels)
who were before the flood; for as these continually behold them, they lusted
after them, and they conceived the act in their mind; FOR THEY CHANGED
THEMSELVES INTO THE SHAPE OF MEN, and appeared to them when they were (possibly
not) with their husbands. And the women lusting in their minds after their
forms, gave birth to giants, for the Watchers appeared to them as reaching even
With this exceptionally outstanding passage, we can more wholly
comprehend what it means in Jude 6, the fallen "angels which kept not their
first estate." This passage also serves as a paradigm or model, after the fact,
of what happened previously involving the satanic seduction of Eve in the garden
of Eden. We are now more aware of the war which resulted in the fallen angels
becoming earth bound or "chained,," which is an essential element in the concept
of the Two Seedline doctrine.
Now that we know who the players are, let's proceed with the
narrative which resulted in the two seeds of Genesis 3:15 It is simply amazing
the various unreasonable, preposterous, nonsensical and Twisted arguments that
opponents of the Two Seedline teaching advance to secure their groundless,
unfounded and insecure positions. We will be getting to examples of some of them
shortly, after we briefly walk carefully, step by step, through the fundamental
NOW MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE BELIEVE SINCERELY THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT
HOLD WITH THE TWO SEEDLINE THEORY ARE SINCERE AND FAITHFUL MEN OF YAHWEH. WE
JUST DISAGREE WITH THEM AND BELIEVE THAT THEIR TEACHING IS IN ERROR; AND NOT
DELIBERATELY FALSE TO DECEIVE.
In Genesis 2:16-17 we see where Yahweh instructs Adam before the
creation of Eve. You see, there was already a danger that Adam might mess up by
eating of the forbidden fruit, the mixing with the other races which had been
created before Adam was FORMED, even before Eve arrived on the scene.
The important thing to see here is, Yahweh had a very important
reason for instructing Adam at this time, for there were a lot of women unlike
his kind (pre-Adamites; A book entitled, "Preadmites," or a demonstration of the
Existence of Men Before Adam; together with a study of their condition
antiquity, and Racial Affinities, and Progressive Dispersion Over the Earth, by
Alexander Winchell, LL. D., and published by S.C. Griggs and Company, London:
1880, which contains 500 pages.
Another book entitled, "Adam and The Adamite" or, The Harmony of
Scripture and Ethnology by Dominick Meausland, Q.C. LL. D., London: Richard
Bentley, New Burlington St. England 1864) running around the garden to excite
his natural manly instincts).
"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the
garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die." (Genesis 2:16-17)
The rest of Chapter 2 concerns itself with the creation of Eve, an
"help meet" for Adam who was genetically the same as he was, or as Genesis 2:23
"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my
flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." (Genesis
You will notice a good cross reference system of the KJV (as
stated before) gives Ephesians 5:30 on this verse and says:
"For we are members of his (Yeashua's) body, of his flesh and of
his bones (same race)."
To further establish the setting or background surroundings of
this story, it will be needful to consider Genesis 2:8-9:
"And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he
put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow
every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life
also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil
(three kinds of trees in all)."